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kguske
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:12 pm Reply with quote

Thought that would get your attention. If so, look at Only registered users can see links on this board! Get registered or login!.

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to create opportunities and spread entrepreneurship to the world by providing a superior open source web application framework which cultivates a passionate developer community as well as a prosperous commercial ecosystem.


I haven't followed this, but wonder what benefits there are to having a company with this mission. Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:14 pm Reply with quote

Since DotNetNuke® is copyright 2002-2006 by Perpetual Motion Interactive Systems Inc., is it just a renaming of the company or did PMIS transfer ownership of the registered trademark to DotNetNuke Corporation?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:01 pm Reply with quote

Looking quickly at the website and some links and tutorials on it; DotNetNuke seems to have nothing to do with PHPnuke except for having expropriated "nuke" as part of its name. Oh, yeah, maybe it's a "portal" too and some off shoot of "open source".

Looks to be programmed in Visual Basic and use their own internal database. I may be jaded (sorry Jaded, not taking your nick in vain) but any derivative of a MS product gives me the willies.

On the other hand the notion of getting some start-up funding for RN or a derivative thereof has long intrigued me.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:24 pm Reply with quote

Sorry, fkelly. It was more of a rhetorical question. DotNetNuke was developed as a Microsoft version of PHP-Nuke. Like most forks, it went off in a different direction and actually has some great functionality in recent versions. As with Mambo / Joomla, most of the addons are commercial.

This similarity is telling - Mambo tried a commercially-sponsored approach, but the limited decision making role of open source developers lead to the creation of Joomla. I wonder if that might happen to DotNetNuke, too. But those in the Microsoft world are much more accustomed to commercial decision-making / lack of input, so maybe it won't have the same effect there.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:54 pm Reply with quote

No problem whatsoever, Kguske. I'm a newbie at all this Open Source stuff and until a year or so ago I thought a fork was something you ate dinner with. I'm just sitting here rereading your post and wondering: "is a Microsoft version of PHPnuke a contradiction in terms"? I'm not sure if I mean that question rhetorically or not. On the one hand you can apparently download the product for free and modify it to your heart's content. On the other it doesn't look like you can use a free version of PHP and a free MYSQL to run it.

Bottom line I suppose is that we'd be better off focusing on where we want Ravennuke to go and how to get there.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:48 pm Reply with quote

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and until a year or so ago I thought a fork was something you ate dinner with


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we'd be better off focusing on where we want Ravennuke to go and how to get there


Or, PHP-Portal... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:20 pm Reply with quote

Everyone is trying to make money off of open-source now...
Why not? It is like having a bag of free developers to look at your work.

Personally I think it hurts the open source community everytime people come in looking for easy money. Just rubs me the wrong way

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:18 pm Reply with quote

I don't mind people making money off open source, depending on how they do it... Using OS stuff to provide clients with cheaper solutions is fine, but claiming you wrote it and charging for the software itself is something else: illegal.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:50 pm Reply with quote

Yuck ASP. Why do people still use that, do they prefer loads of percentages instead of real code?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:41 pm Reply with quote

djmaze wrote:
Yuck ASP. Why do people still use that, do they prefer loads of percentages instead of real code?

Because it's a "Billy Boy" product and we all know that he knows what is best for the end abuser, er, I mean user killing me
 
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